Saturday, November 21, 2009

More on Women Who Love Soldiers - What Your Love Means To the Men Who Fight the Wars


Mimi, Please keep this discussion going, I am going through the same thing myself, however, my boyfriend is not deploying, but is in the AF and is being re-stationed in Hawaii. I have been so confused what to do and how to approach things. This series (as many from you) is extremely helpful.

Linda

Much more from women who love men in the military, and women who are IN the military.

These emails will touch your heart and maybe break it. All names have been changed.

Where to write to soldiers:

http://www.anysoldier.com/

Dear Mimi,

I can comment on this with experience. My husband was in the military for 33 years, and I know for a fact that a girlfriend needs to be there for him without ultimatums. He is not going to mention the big "M" word or discuss his relationship with you, because he has said nothing, take it at this point in time, that all is well.

What you are wanting to do, another woman did to my husband in Vietnam. She pressured him to get engaged, etc., and then she broke it off while he was over there and married someone else. It caused grave hurt and emotional scars. His mates have told me the effect on him as well as them. I met him after he came home from the war. I also had long separations from my man due to Military life and exercises and there is always risk.

Right now your guy needs your love support and loyalty. He will need your love, letters, care packages of essentials he does not have or cannot get, send photos, and do not write about your problems or insecurities. This man is about to go into a war zone and anything can happen. He will be nervous and possibly scared about it, but he will not say so. If anything negative happens with you, it could cost lives at the other end, due to his upset emotional state he will not be focusing as he should.

Take this time as a special time for you. Start those projects you want to do, spend time on you, set out to make yourself a confident and happy person. Still see friends, and maybe even his friends - but not too friendly with them !!!!! Reason: life with a military man means that there will be time apart, you and he have no control over this. The strength and depth of love will be shown by your confidence in him (NO BIG TALK).

He also needs to know that you are capable of being on your own and the trust and loyalty is there. This makes a very solid relationship and he can get on with what he has been sent to do with confidence all is well at home. Any negative things, Dear John letters, etc., has a real impact on all his colleagues and mates at the time, so your actions will also affect others and possibly their safety.

A lot a men in the military, due to the fact that there is always a danger, they often do not open up, they accept it "as is." If you do marry and have family later, your faith in him now and loyalty will be a very strong point with you relationship later raising children in his absence (been there and done that) he will feel safe with you, that you will not let him down. These situations make or break relationships in the military.

And what more..... when my husband died from war injuries a few years ago after 25 years of marriage to Him and the Military, while cleaning out his things, I found EVERY SINGLE letter I had ever written to him while he was away, tied with red ribbon. The ones written before we became engaged were tied separately in the bundle. It says a lot.

SO, tell him you love him, support him, love him from afar, every letter tell him you love him, be creative with your letters, (I used to draw coloured pictures on my envelopes, and the other guys would tell him there's a letter for you - it became a trademark and a high point for him, and some of the guys were envious of his girlfriend - he told me so when he came back), write about nice things that you did together and experienced together, this lets him know you care and that the relationship matters, give him positive information and above all Love and HOPE, and write OFTEN. This is war, not a holiday excursion. He may be killed, injured or disfigured, so he must know that it will not matter, that it is HIM that you love.

So if you love him and are serious about your relationship... BE THERE FOR HIM. Take the mental view that this is a new experience and get on with it with confidence, Wish him well, say goodbye with a smile and with love, no hysterics (seen that and not good), a tear is OK, and go home and cry in private, wreck your mascara. This will be his last memory of you until he gets back and it is important, be nicely dressed, smell nice, etc... This is giving him nice memories to hold him over until he comes home to you - this is one of the important memories of you.... most important.

This way he can be proud of you. And now his mates look after me, and I'm now in my 50s they are my friends too, and because the relationship with my husband - some of them served overseas in war with him; they look after me now. That is how it is with the Military (in Australia).

Best of Luck to Amy.

Mimi, there is so much more to this and I feel this young girl needs some really sound advice on how to handle herself and be there for him.

"Jean"

Hi Mimi,

Just one more thing about Amy and her "soldier boyfriend." While we all understand her need for commitment before he leaves, let's just consider one of the worst scenarios:

I had a friend who was very much in love with her GI boyfriend and he with her. Unfortunately he was sent overseas and got very badly injured. I won't go into the horrid details, but believe me, there wasn't much left of him when he came back, save his brain and his ability to speak...

He felt he wanted to release her from the relationship despite their previous agreement that they were in a committed relationship...

She felt torn between pity and loyalty... but had to admit to herself that she couldn't possibly have married him now.....

Had they waited for the 'talk' till he got back....... do I need to say more?

While I wish Amy all the best and her boyfriend all the luck in the world... I feel the 'talk' can wait... and wait...............

cheers.........

"Felicia"


Mimi:

You are "gorgeous"....

SFC "Rourke," just to add to your story... I have been back home for a little over 2 years from Iraq.

I got divorced when I returned home... People don't understand how much the "I care" packages mean to a soldier.

If you can not afford to send packages, his home station can help you out, but nothing means more than a slice of home when a soldier is away.

I did not get the "I care" packages... All I got was "I need, I need, I need," from my spouse, even when I had to be medivaced to Germany.. Anyway...

We are already under a lots of stress and we too have some fear in our hearts about being deployed.

You let "Amy" know that if she wants to keep her man... "Patience is a Virtue".... Let him know you care while he is gone and give him time when he returns home.

Once we return back to the good ole USA, we have to fit back in... I know it sounds strange but believe me it's not.... I cried because I went past my street for the third time in a row... "New Construction"... So our minds are looking for familiarity....

Hope it all works out......
"Rourke"


Hello,

I really feel for Amy. My brother was deployed to Afghanastan and his girlfriend was concerned about their relationship and what she should do. They had been together for 10 months and he is 35 and she, 30.

She ended up moving in with him to see if it would even work out 3 months before his deployment. (That may have been a mistake). It seemed to be fine, but when he left I asked him if she was getting a ring? He said no. His track record with women is bad in my opinion, I don't even bother to learn their names most of the time because he has picked poorly and I know they won't last long.

We all loved this girl and thought she was the one. He is the type of guy that is friends with all his ex's which I guess is a good thing. Anyway, he left for 6 weeks, was home for Thanksgiving then off to Afghanistan. He broke up with her in January. I was blown away! His excuse was that he didn't miss her so it must not be meant to be.

I think with his military job he has conditioned himself to feel little emotion and put up a wall. I have no idea if she said the wrong things or pushed or what, but he is sticking to his story. He got home a month ago and saw her twice in the first 4 days. It is of course just as friends and I think she needs to play hard to get and blow him off. He let her get away and he's never going to figure it out.

For Amy, since you and he are not in your 20's, he's been around the block and he is probably not wanting to rush into anything now at all. He is pre-occupied and what they go through just preparing to leave is intense. Just be positive for him and see how it goes after he's gone. You should know him well enough to sense a blow off after he's been gone a while. If he wants you he will let you know; if he doesn't, he will turn you loose. I know my BF would want me to wait for him but we are in an exclusive committed relationship and we now live together.

Don't whine or pressure him for anything. Believe me, they share stories and I'm sure he's heard an earful from his buddies and others about the drama. Don't be that person and he will respect you immensely.

Hang in there!

"Jenny"
Comments are welcome!

Friday, November 20, 2009

He's Being Deployed To Iraq - Should She Find Out Where Things Stand Before He Leaves?

Here is an email I received and shared with in my email column AND the many emails I received from people in the military in response.

Today I received an email that is sure to touch your heart:

"Mimi:

"First of all, I want you to know that I look forward to your emails every day. They are so helpful!!!

"I know you are bombarded with emails every day asking for your advice. I am in a sticky situation. I have been with my boyfriend for 18 months. He has been in training for the last six weeks out of state before leaving for a year to Iraq after Thanksgiving. He will be home for four days during Thanksgiving.

"At the beginning of our relationship we would briefly talk about marriage (I am 39 and he is 45), but that has not really been mentioned for a while and has not been mentioned at all before he left.

"I love this man with all my heart and I want to wait for him; however, I need a reason to wait and that is knowing that we still have a future together as soon as he is done with his tour. I do not want to spend the next year waiting around for someone who may or may not want to be with me.

"When he is home for his four-day leave, I really, really want to have 'the talk' with him. So, what do I do? Wait around, move on and send him a Dear John letter if he does not talk about our future (I honestly think he feels I am happy with just being a girlfriend) or tell him how I feel. I am so confused and could really use your guidance.
"Thank you for your time.

"Sincerely, Amy (not her real name)"
Dear Amy,

I am glad you wrote. So you've been together 18 months, and I'm guessing that and he are exclusive since he is your boyfriend. I'm sure he's a wonderful man (I have immense admiration for men in the military - not to mention the fact that they are very handsome!) and you love him with all your heart. Right now he must in a high emotional state with all that is going on, and very busy. He probably has a lot on his mind. I hope you are spending Thanksgiving with him.

You have a great opportunity here and I think you should not bring up the future and see if he brings it up. Spend this time being caring and helpful and positive but *without giving too much* and without getting emotional, except at your actual goodbye moment (but still hold it together through the tears).

I think you should show serenity and confidence. That will make him more aware of your end of the situation, which he probably already is anyway.

If he asks you to "wait for him," then tell him you want to talk about it. Then let him do the talking to find out what he means. If he doesn't propose to you or give you more than what you now have in terms of a future, then be honest. Briefly tell him that you're in love with him, and that you're there for him, but that in the long run, you need to be with someone who is in love with you just as much. And leave it at that. Let him figure it out. Make no promises.

Of course he may surprise you before he leaves, but assuming that he doesn't, here's what I suggest:

You're already in love with him, so that isn't going to change any time soon. However, you have to think of your own social and romantic needs since you are not engaged to him and he's not present. I think you should spend the time while he is away doing things with friends, old and new, men and women. These will not be dates.

If you find yourself mutually attracted to someone, then spend more time with him, in a casual way, and see where it goes. You are not engaged. [If this becomes more, then you can let your boyfriend know if you are dating people.] -- THIS ADVICE I AM NOW CHANGING BASED ON HEARING FROM PEOPLE IN THE MILITARY. DO NOT CHANGE YOUR RELATIONSHIP STATUS WITH A MAN WHO IS STATIONED AWAY FROM HOME.

Most of all, don't worry about this too much. Your guy is perfectly capable of going after you, so let go and let things take their course. Don't try too hard in any way. This might be a key to why he has backed off from you somewhat already (from mentioning marriage the way he did in the beginning).

My guess is that you might end up with this man. While he is gone, he may realize how much he wants to be with you even more. Have confidence in the fact that he doesn't want to lose you. Now is the time to feel your strength there.

Keep us posted!!

Getting a commitment is an art these days. The less you want it, the easier it is.

My program "Hard To Get" discusses the Reverse Ultimatum - find out what it is and how to pull it off - in getting a man to commit. Check it out!

With love,
Mimi Tanner
Author of "Hard to Get - Your Personal Guidebook on
How to Play the Game of Love
!"



During the day I received some wonderful emails that I shared today in my column:

Dear Mimi,

As a "seasoned" female Army Soldier of over 20 years, this girlfriend of this Soldier needs to understand something.... right now it's NOT about HER or THEM, it's about HIM going to war and it's about HIM returning home alive and with all his body parts!

If this girlfriend loves this Soldier, she needs to be patient right now and put her needs on hold. She needs to help him through his deployment by writing him often, sending him "I care" packages, remaining faithful in his absence and actually being there for him when he returns home. A deployment of any kind (especially to a war zone) is what makes or breaks a relationship in the military.

This girlfriend needs to ask herself another question... If this Soldier were to ask her to marry him before he deploys, or better yet, if they were to actually get married before he deployed and he were to return from the war missing an arm, a leg (or maybe both), or if he were to return with half of his skull or face missing, is she willing to and going to remain his devoted wife?

War is reality, as are the repercussions of war. This girlfriend needs understand what reality is all about!

-- "Jessica"

More correspondence with Jessica below. I guarantee you will find it very thought-provoking.



One thing everyone in the military who wrote me agrees on is this:

Don't bring up the "Serious Talk" about where things stand this week - and whatever you do, do not break up with him while he is overseas. More on why - keep reading. Here is the next email:
Mimi,

Normally, I read these wonderful messages and take the advice to use in my relationship, but this post I felt I should respond to. I am a female in my 40's who deployed to Kuwait. I can give a little insight into the plight of an Iraqi-bound GI.

He will be depending on letters and packages from this woman and will fall more in love with her through the courting of the letters. I saw it many times with the GI's that I was deployed with. They all ended up going home and getting married to the lady who was writing to them. I definitely agree that she should not bring the subject up over Thanksgiving because many times the GI's are advised to not get involved before they deploy to limit family distress while being at war. They are guarded and will not commit because they fear they will leave someone hanging.

Presently, my own son is in this situation with a girl who wants to be married to him and he deploys in March. She too has the same question. I have talked to my son and he wants to release her until he gets back to enable her to make a good choice and not feel like he is holding her down while he is gone 13 months. He fears she will cheat and it will hurt him worse.

I commend him for thinking of her, but also advised him that when women are in love they are willing to wait and he could just give her a promise ring, promising to come back to her in the future. It still is her choice to wait or go.

Ultimately, Dear John letters do nothing but destroy morale of not only the man who gets one, but the comrades that deal with the heartbreak of their fellow soldier. This is the last thing the troops need in the face of danger!

"Bonnie"


The advice is unanimous (which rarely happens!) -

Amy should not worry about the future with her boyfriend now. If she really is in love with him and wants to spend her life with him, she should be his emotional support when he is away for a year.


Wow, Mimi, I just read the story of "Amy" and I can feel for her. We have just about the same kind of story except my Army SGT married me back in September on my birthday before he deployed to Iraq for a year. He has had his four-day leave and now he is in Iraq by way of Ft. Hood, Texas.

By the way, he had just left Ft. Hood that Tuesday the week of the shootings there for his four-day leave. I do hope her situation ends as well as mine has, I love my new husband very much. I wish her well.

"Mary"


All of the US soldiers here and abroad have my utmost respect. One of my daughters is considering being in the military too. She and I visited a military base briefly a couple of months ago. She didn't say much when we were walking around (naturally I found the Starbucks) but after we left, she said she wants to be part of the military and is getting more and more interested in this.

MORE EMAILS FROM READERS:

The Dangers of Ending a Relationship With a Man Who Is Deployed

Jessica wrote back to me with much more thought-provoking information:

Hi Mimi,

I am a new fan of yours and because of you I enjoy my morning coffee even more now:)! Thank you for taking the time to reply to my mail. I hope I gave you some things to think about.

There is all kinds of information online about “dealing with deployment” and how deployment can affect a relationship. There is help out there for girlfriends and wives, and you are in the position to point “Amy” in the right direction.

Amy is in for a very, very long year (perhaps longer). This Soldier isn’t talking about marriage anymore because he does not know if he will live or be whole enough to see the day; it has NOTHING to do with Amy.

This Soldier needs to go to war with his head on straight, focused on doing his mission successfully and returning home as well as can be expected. He does not need Amy giving him any ultimatums; he does not need to have his heart broken before his deployment, he does not need his heart broken while he is in the war zone, and it would be nice to think that when he returns he will not have his heart broken at that time. Death comes with war. Sadly too, death also comes after war – suicide, some as a result of selfish women. I am a criminal investigator; I see it and I read the notes, so I know.

Mimi, set Amy straight and point her in the right direction. I don’t know how really strong this relationship is, but Amy needs to understand this Soldier’s life may very well depend on her.

Again, thank you for your time and writing me.

-- "Jessica"
Another reader adds this thought-provoking email:

Mimi:

This email could not have come at a better time. My boyfriend of 18 months is getting ready to deploy to Afghanistan at the end of January, his 4th to date and 1st to Afghanistan. I'm in the exact same situation and it was good to read your advice.

I would like to offer one caution about 'Dear John' letters though - during my boyfriend's previous deployment he had a girl back home here that he had been dating for 3+ years who sent him a 'Dear John' letter the week after Valentine's Day. It absolutely crushed him and he had to go to his commander (he's an officer himself) and ask to be taken off duty for a few days because his head wasn't in the game and he was afraid he would get one of his guys or himself killed. His commander totally understood and sent him to Qatar for 4 days just to get away and clear his head.

He still hurts from what happened to him and I believe he is using this upcoming deployment to see if we will make it through. I also believe that soldiers disengage a bit as they prepare to deploy so that it won't hurt quite as much to be away for 12-14 months. He has told me on numerous occasions that it's more difficult for those who stay home than it is for those who deploy. I'm not so sure I believe that, but it does give some insight into how he's thinking.

I'm terrified, but oh so proud of him. I am just working on making these last two and a half months as stress-free and fun as possible (easier said than done!).

Thanks again for your advice.
"Jenny"
Deployment Will Make or Break the Relationship

Here is a wonderful and inspiring email from a military wife:

Mimi,

I have never felt the need to respond to an ezine before but I felt a need to respond to this edition and to talk to "Amy."

I have been married for 17 years to my soldier and he has been deployed from our family for a year at a time three times now. I bring that up to show only that I am talking from YEARS of experience.

First of all, I agree that Amy should not have this talk during his short time home before he deploys. I know she can feel a need to address this before he leaves - but the truth is - there will be ample time to address it soon.

There will be a short time of communication blackout right after he leaves while they are in transition but soon the communication will pick up again as he is settled into his new reality. They will be able to connect and talk quite regularly once that happens. That may be every day or it may be a few times a week but there will be time for Amy and her soldier to connect and figure all this out.

The separation and his intense reality will bring these discussions about naturally. He may be surprised to see how much of his rock Amy becomes during this time. He may realize that he can't live without her. He may become hyperaware of the fact that Amy is able to date other men and there is nothing he can do to prevent that and realize how much he doesn't want to lose her.

There is no need to "fish or cut bait" now. In fact, it is an unnatural time to do so. The natural need to talk about these things and to really explore the depth of their relationship will happen naturally just as a result of the deployment.

Deployment is stressful on couples. It makes or break you. My husband and I are SO much closer as a result of his deployments. He has gained new respect for me. He has fallen in love with me all over again. We have realized how much we do love each other and depend on each other. This doesn't happen to everyone - we have seen some relationships shatter against the harsh rock that a deployment is. But for most of our friends, the deployment has forced them to focus on their relationship and to really grow closer.

I would tell Amy to relax and just be here now. Be with her soldier while she can be and to just let the moments happen. Give the deployment the time to highlight the strengths or weaknesses of their relationship.

"Melissa"

I corresponded with Jessica again who echoed the "make or break" thoughts. I'd requested some online resources for women in this situation.

Good Morning Mimi,

Perhaps Amy is very caring and willing to wait, but is she strong enough to be the girlfriend and/or wife of a Military Man?

This deployment will make or break their relationship and the "making" of it depends on Amy.

So far I’ve found that the best support and information resource for military spouses and significant others of all branches around the world is:

http://www.militarysos.com/

I’m glad I could help. I hope I gave you, Amy and your other readers some things to think about. I hope Amy follows up with you in a year or so and has nothing but good news to report.

Keep up the great work, I love our coffee time together!

"Jessica"

Thanks so much to everyone who has written in on this topic. Feel free to comment; comments are monitored and will be checked frequently during the next day so they can be added.

Thursday, November 19, 2009

I'm Ready for Christmas: Celtic Woman's "Ding Dong Merrily On High"

Turn Your Speakers ALL the WAY UP and Make Sure You Hear the Whole Song. I have it on my iTunes. LOVE IT.

Thursday, November 12, 2009

Sophia

My daughter has had a friend named Sophia since the 5th grade. They were cheerleaders together in 7th and 8th, and this year they are seniors. They met in a parochial school, and now they each go to different high schools. Sophia is very creative and has always had a very unique and unmistakable style; she's about 4'10", long big dark curls, and might wear something like colorful sneakers; torn, faded jeans; t-shirt, long string of big pearls, bracelets, big glasses, and a big smile. She drives a bright yellow bug.

Tonight as we usually do we went to one of her school plays. She's been in each production since Freshman year. It was a good play. Sophia is the kind of friend who becomes part of the family. That's because she shows so much love and appreciation to the adults in her life, from her own parents and family, to me and I'm sure to many others. Once she even texted me "I'm thankful for you" on Thanksgiving. She went to NYC with my daughter and me 2 years ago and we're planning a Spring Break trip with her again. She's the easiest and most appreciative teen (aside from my own!) that I could imagine having along with us. I've been so blessed that my daughter has always chosen her friends incredibly well!

My (oldest) daughter is not the big play fanatic that I am (from age 13 I was combing through all those big red yearly theatre books in the library and memorizing cast names of plays I'd never seen) but because of me she has seen a LOT of plays and has come to really enjoy them. And we like supporting Sophia in her many play appearances because we know how much she puts her heart into the theater program and have always hoped she'll continue with her talents in some way (which she plans to do).

What strikes me about Sophia and makes it easy to "embrace her" as a family member is that she really "gives back" in interest and affection and is completely sincere about it. It really makes a difference. She's devoted to her parents also - she's spent almost every evening at the furniture store they've owned for years, helping out, and now she's planning to go to college in Houston so she can continue to be there for them. And this is the same girl who lives for Warped Tour and knows a lot of bands like the back of her hand to the point of knowing them personally. She has her own unique opinions and anyone would think of her as a free spirit - which she is.

That's Sophia, whose roots are Ecuadorian, whose heart is huge, and who is always welcome in our house - such a comfortable and kind young girl to have around.